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Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email
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David Masterson |
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Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email |
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Sat, 21 Jan 2023 19:08:26 -0800 |
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Gottfried <gottfried@posteo.de>, "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org"
>> <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 22:04:08 -0800
>>
>> 2. Free Software
>>
>> While RMS' goal may have been laudable, many (most) programmers could
>> not see how to monetize their work in a free software environment and,
>> so, went where the money was more plentiful. Without the investment of
>> big bucks that copyrighted software could command, development of Emacs
>> in the 90s slowed to a crawl and depended on the programmer "with an
>> itch".
>
> The "slowed to a crawl" part doesn't match the facts: the rate of
> commits in the 90s doesn't fall below that of 2000s or 2010s. In
> particular, addition of GUI X frames and m18n (a.k.a. "MULE") to Emacs
> belong to the 90s: hardly a non-development. And the development of
> the current display engine started in 1998 and ended in 2000, so
> technically also a "90s" feature. Not bad for "capital-deprived"
> project!
You're right. That was impertinent of me. While I used it in my work, I
was not on the development of Emacs.
Wasn't the display engine derived from Lucid Emacs?
>> 5. Smartphones
>>
>> The iPhone is still not capable of supporting Emacs and I don't know how
>> well Android could support Emacs.
>
> See the feature/android branch in the Emacs Git repository.
Ooo 8)
>> Even if they could support Emacs, Smartphones are GUI-intensive, so
>> not really an environment for a text editor.
>
> Not true, at least not in such an absolute wording. Smartphones do
> provide apps to edit text, and many people would like access to their
> Org and TODO lists on the smartphone, let alone read email.
True. BeOrg provides a bridge, but it's certainly not Emacs. The base
of Emacs seems keyboard-driven and you're not going to do a lot of
keyboarding on a smartphone (thus the GUI remark).
> Bottom line: when you are trying to make a point, don't overdo it, and
> always check against the actual facts.
Good point
--
David Masterson
- Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, (continued)
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- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/01/21
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- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, Bob Newell, 2023/01/21
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, David Masterson, 2023/01/21
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, Jean Louis, 2023/01/23
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email,
David Masterson <=
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- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, David Masterson, 2023/01/22
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/01/22
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, Po Lu, 2023/01/22
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- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, Jean Louis, 2023/01/21
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, David Masterson, 2023/01/21
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