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Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email
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David Masterson |
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Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email |
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Sat, 21 Jan 2023 19:33:43 -0800 |
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Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> * David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com> [2023-01-21 09:10]:
>> While RMS' goal may have been laudable, many (most) programmers could
>> not see how to monetize their work in a free software environment and,
>> so, went where the money was more plentiful. Without the investment of
>> big bucks that copyrighted software could command, development of Emacs
>> in the 90s slowed to a crawl and depended on the programmer "with an
>> itch". Good stuff was done, but it could've been so much more. This is
>> why Emacs development took 40 years whereas things might've happened
>> faster in the more capitalistic world (but Emacs would've been very
>> different beast!).
>
> I agree to your points. Though if you say that Emacs could have been
> more suitable to general public if it would be proprietary, maybe yes,
> but it would not be extensible.
Not necessarily. The ELisp engine in Emacs would've continued being
developed in a proprietary way, but Elisp packages could continue to be
developed by anybody. The company might even see value in hosting
package libraries.
The value-add might be faster development of things like multi-threading
Emacs exposed to Elisp, portability to more platforms (smartphones),
better support (theoretically!), and so on.
The downside is a repeat of TECO Emacs on DEC mainframes when DEC died
in the early 80s.
>> 5. Smartphones
>>
>> The iPhone is still not capable of supporting Emacs and I don't know how
>> well Android could support Emacs. Even if they could support Emacs,
>> Smartphones are GUI-intensive, so not really an environment for a text
>> editor. So the next generation of users/programmers are going to be
>> "non-GUI challenged".
>
> Right.
>
> Emacs runs without problem in Termux for Replicant/Android and similar
> systems. There is nice tap-keyboard, with CTRL, ALT, etc. which is
> locked, user can basically use single finger to get all Emacs
> commands.
>
> There is effort on Emacs Development mailing list to make Emacs for
> Android with GUI.
Really?!? Sounds interesting. I've used iPhones, but I might have to
look into an Android.
--
David Masterson
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, (continued)
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, David Masterson, 2023/01/21
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/01/22
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, David Masterson, 2023/01/22
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/01/22
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, Po Lu, 2023/01/22
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, David Masterson, 2023/01/22
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email, Jean Louis, 2023/01/21
- Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email,
David Masterson <=
Re: package for Email, Filipp Gunbin, 2023/01/18
Re: package for Email, Jean Louis, 2023/01/18
Re: package for Email, Jean Louis, 2023/01/18
Re: package for Email, John Haman, 2023/01/19