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From: Ricky Mujica
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 41, Issue 14
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 23:31:27 -0400

>
> The best social solution for this problem is to attack centralized
> surveillance, since it seems much more harmful overall than
> decentralized surveillance. I can't think of any horrible things
> decentralized surveillance has done, but I can think of several positive
> things it's done (the Rodney King tape and a large number of similar
> tapes, the Russian meteor footage).
>
>

Don't forget that decentralized surveillance helped catch the Boston Bombers in record time.


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   1. Re: Linux.com promoting Google Glass? (Manuel Palomo Duarte)
   2. Re: Ethical non-DRM uses of EME (Andrew Roffey)


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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 00:03:41 +0200
From: Manuel Palomo Duarte <manuel.palomo@uca.es>
To: Ted Smith <tedks@riseup.net>
Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Linux.com promoting Google Glass?
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As I understand the interest of Linux.com (ergo Linux Foundation) is
promoting Linux in all its applications and uses. Of course, preferring
those related to freedom, but linux is just linux

2013/5/17 Ted Smith <tedks@riseup.net>

> On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 19:16 +0200, Micha? 'rysiek' Wo?niak wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I find this... disconcerting:
> > http://www.linux.com/news/friday-funnies/the-iron-penguin-part-2
> >
> > I understand that Google Glass is a Linux-based device that makes rounds
> in
> > the press and seems to be a very... convenient vehicle of promoting
> Linux, but
> > there is a multitude of problems with it.
> >
> > First off, I don't see Google promoting the fact that it's Linux-based.
> Google
> > doesn't help promote Linux.
>
> Google funds Linux hacking and makes sure there are GNU/Linux ports of
> their non-free software (I see this as worse than libre software on
> Windows, but better than not supporting GNU/Linux at all -- a net
> negative, but not the worst case, and not something I'd note as a
> positive to anyone not subscribed to this list).
>
> > Secondly, Google Glass has a lot of dangerous implications for privacy
> and
> > personal freedom -- the very personal freedom that Free Software is
> poised to
> > protect, although in a bit different area.
>
> Does it? The only implication is that now individuals have an easy way
> to essentially tape a long-running camera to their face. People have
> been doing that for a long time, and your public life has been
> constantly surveilled for much longer.
>
> Google Glass doesn't take away any privacy. It just makes the existing
> privacy losses much more blatant.
>
> There is no technical solution for this problem. It's not clear if the
> technological attacker or defender has a clear advantage at the moment,
> and the arms race will continue for some time.
>
> The best social solution for this problem is to attack centralized
> surveillance, since it seems much more harmful overall than
> decentralized surveillance. I can't think of any horrible things
> decentralized surveillance has done, but I can think of several positive
> things it's done (the Rodney King tape and a large number of similar
> tapes, the Russian meteor footage).
>
>
> --
> Sent from Ubuntu
>



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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 08:58:41 +1000
From: Andrew Roffey <andrew.roffey@connect.qut.edu.au>
To: <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ethical non-DRM uses of EME
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On 18/05/13 01:20, Joshua Gay wrote:
> On 05/17/2013 08:57 AM, Andrew Roffey wrote:
>> However, I'm aware that EME does help with
>> key exchange on the browser-level, and provides a standard API for
>> dealing with encrypted content. It could also make it easier to handle
>> support multiple cryptosystems (or the lack of one).
>
>
> For general Web Cryptography stuff you can look toward the Web
> Cryptography working group <http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/> or the
> XML encryption spec <http://www.w3.org/standards/techs/xmlenc#w3c_all>.
> I am pretty sure all the things you described can and should be done
> through these working groups/specs.

Thank you. That is perhaps closer to what I was looking for. I will have
to spend some more time taking a closer look at it.





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