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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages
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Daniel Pocock |
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages |
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Mon, 29 Feb 2016 12:57:03 +0100 |
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On 29/02/16 12:51, Fabio Pesari wrote:
> On 02/29/2016 12:22 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>
>> That actually contains a big clue
>>
>> We need to focus on identifying each person's values and not expect
>> everybody to have values.
>
> That's hard to do, especially on the Internet where you can't assume
> anything about your interlocutor.
>
> Also, I think it would help to have a default set of values to address.
>
> To be honest, I struggle a lot with the fact that so many people think
> there is no objective "right" and "wrong".
>
> For example, for us it might be "wrong" to prevent users from knowing
> what they are executing, but for them it could be "wrong" to require
> developers to share their trade secrets.
>
> I would say we are right, but according to whose values? Money is sadly
> used as an indicator of objective truth these days and it's clearly on
> the side of proprietary software.
>
>> E.g. some doctors will want to keep their patient data private because
>> it is the right thing to do. Some will do it because of the commercial
>> incentive (not wanting a rogue employee of the IT company to sell a
>> customer list to a rival). Some will only want to keep patient data
>> private because of the big penalty fines that doctors now face for data
>> breaches.
>>
>> The first step is to use questions to identify the person's values.
>> Then match the argument to their values
>>
>> While it sounds trivial, salespeople are usually trained to identify one
>> of these things that each customer values most: career, family, hobby.
>> Once they identify the most important one, they may try to talk about it
>> or even relate their message to it (e.g. "do you think you might have a
>> third child? Have you seen this larger model car...")
>>
>> Even if this only helps for 1 out of 5 discussions, just forget the
>> other 4 and don't be demotivated, you can't win every time.
>
> Yes, that's true.
>
>> This is just a matter of training and practice
>>
>> For example, lawyers often spend hours with their clients practicing
>> questions and answers for court cases. That is how they look so
>> convincing and respond so effortlessly in the heat of the moment.
>
> That is a very good practice. Any lawyers out there promoting free software?
>
Last time I checked, Software Freedom Conservancy were battling VMWare
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, (continued)
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, J.B. Nicholson, 2016/02/28
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Fabio Pesari, 2016/02/29
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Daniel Pocock, 2016/02/29
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Fabio Pesari, 2016/02/29
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Daniel Pocock, 2016/02/29
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Fabio Pesari, 2016/02/29
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Daniel Pocock, 2016/02/29
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Fabio Pesari, 2016/02/29
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Daniel Pocock, 2016/02/29
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Fabio Pesari, 2016/02/29
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages,
Daniel Pocock <=
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Paul M, 2016/02/29
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Fabio Pesari, 2016/02/29
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, aurelien, 2016/02/29
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Fabio Pesari, 2016/02/28
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Proposal for "FUD responses" wiki pages, Yui Hirasawa, 2016/02/29