Re: Fwd: Improving the FSF in support to the GPL, RMS and staff

[Yuchen Pei]

Julian Daich <julian.daich@freecomputerlabs.org> writes:

> El sáb, 3 abr 2021 a las 17:51, Yuchen Pei (<hi@ypei.me>) 
> escribió:
> >
>
> > I don't see how a new CoC would help.
>
> 1. CoCs often include corrective actions.
> 2. When CoCs are binded to by laws they provide a framework of
> expected behaviours, policies and for staff to unionize. An 
> effective
> CoC is a decision of Board members and staff and less from 
> members and
> more  peripheral people,
>
> I know that there are Board members and staff at this 
> list. Maybe some
> of them are reading this message.
>
> > We already have a Libreplanet CoC
> > (https://libreplanet.org/wiki/LibrePlanet:About/Code_of_Conduct)
> > and GNU Kind Communications Guidelines
> > (https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.en.html) 
> > etc.
> >
> > CoCs in other organisations have been misused or ignored
> > (e.g. gnome foundation).
>
> I mean institutional CoC, related to specific roles and binded 
> to by
> laws. None of the above is that. Thanks for the examples.

Shouldn't such guidelines apply to everyone regardless of roles? 
And why do we need a CoC bound by the laws? How do we make sure 
the CoC is not harmful like the Linux one, or abused, misused, or 
selectively enforced using vague languages? How do we make sure 
the inclusive environment is truly inclusive and does not harm 
free speech, and the diversity is truly diverse including 
neurodiversity?

Adding a new one also increases overhead but FSF is shrinking. It 
would better if instead FSF just enforces the current ones 
(libreplanet coc, gnu kind etc.).

> Best,
>
> Julian
>
> > >
> > > Also as a member consider that the Code of Conduct have to
> > > include
> > > gender and anti harassment policies and, as a male, that 
> > > those
> > > policies will include not to be harassed by linking social
> > > status with
> > > male sexuality.
> > >
> > > I am in Boston for the next two months and offer myself to 
> > > help
> > > in
> > > everything I can in solving this issue and eventually draft a
> > > Code of
> > > Conduct. Also invite members and staff to do the same, 
> > > including
> > > those
> > > staff members that are willing to leave. Many of them I know
> > > personally, appreciate and would like to have them in a 
> > > renewed
> > > FSF.
> > >
> > > Warnly,
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
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