Re: [Mldonkey-users] emule killed mldonkey.. that's a fact

[gfdsa]

Anyhow, the war, if it exists, is over, emule wins, does not matter if your 
client is better or worse, the point is that as far as M$ wins in the amount 
of desktop OS's, a new p2p client, which is better than previous, will win.

Edonkey's network owned by windows based clients, if you want to get them as 
sources, then implement their protocols, this way it happens with IM's, 
p2p's, streaming. One of the features i like in *nix is their flexibility, 
thats why i hold it on desktop. Because if there is anything which works with 
i-net, sooner or later I'll have it working here and better than the 
original.

I can hardly believe that an open-source project like emule will not share 
information about the protocols.

Don't let mlDonkey die, please?


On Sunday 29 December 2002 00:27, Stephane Goulet wrote:
> > are you so sure about that ?
>
> Well, yeah ;)
>
> > I mean yes of course emule gets downloads from ed2k clients but from what
> > i've seen with my recent emule experience, emule2emule is working too and
> > quite well..
>
> Yes, i agree, emule2emule probably works quite well, but i'm talking of
> emule2others here..
>
> > After all, how could we blame emule developpers  to make a better ed2k
> > client than the official one, that was obviously not as good as the
>
> current
>
> > emule client.. then how could we blame them to use tricks that mld
> > introduced to ed2k, like multiserver connections (does emule really use
>
> that
>
> > ?), recording source lists and so on...
> > Finally yes, they try to add some protocol features that were not
> > included in ed2k protocol.. some of them are probably not so good, like
> > ratio and
>
> I got no problem with improvements, i like evolution ;)
> Let's say that on this, i'm not happy that they took tricks that mld
> introduced but don't want to "use" them with us.
>
> > credit systems, but in the end if the network runs at least as fast as
> > before with their client, why not use it ?
>
> The emule2emule network maybe fast, but the edonkey network is quite slowed
> down...
> Personally i don't really wan't to use emule, besides it does not compile
> under a real os afaik.
>
> > Considering the overnet emule threat, i don't know what to think yet..
> >
> > One thing we have to keep in mind, that emule growth taught us.. and
> > especially to us linux users : windows users and most internet users in
> > general are attracted by good lookin, flashy and well featured
>
> interfaces..
>
> > In my opinion, emule attracted a lot more users to edonkey than the
>
> official
>
> > client could have on its own..
>
> Yeah, flashy interfaces catches all the fishes ;) The client was also dead
> for some time... it's been a looooong time since a new version of the ed2k
> client was released.. And all that time they envyed mld features and
> witchhunted it.. Now that they have their own alternative client they are
> happy ;)
> (I have to say that i'm impressed with all their base of users coding in
> c++, they developp their software quite fast, and with the mods introduce
> features even faster)
>
> > I really hope overnet will benefit from this..
> > if emule developpers wish to update their client with overnet protocol, i
> > can only hope that the overnet upload protocol will be analyzed and
> > published soon so that they can use it too...
>
> Well.. for us overnet sources are like edonkey sources... it will probably
> be the same for them.. so expect the same result of emule on overnet then
> from edonkey..
>
> > Of course i'm quite frustrated, as we all are, by the current lack of
> > efficiency of mldonkey with emule clients..
>
> ack
>
> > I'm afraid i don't feel the emule threat on overnet, maybe that's because
> > i've not took a close look at the way things work..
> > but basicaly i think that if more people come to the network and share
>
> their
>
> > bandwidth it can't really be a bad thing..
> > Moreover the client war will only get people confused and may make them
>
> run
>
> > away and try another p2p network..
>
> More users comming to share their bandwith is allways good, more leechers
> is not :(
> We can't do much of a client war anyway, we are like 5% of the clients..
> emules 85%.. hehe maybe we can do a more agressive guerilla? ;)
>
> > Personnaly i'm more concerned about making users understand that sharing
> > bandwidth and files is critical and edonkey definitely brought something
> > fresh and new to p2p worlds which is the community, making every user
>
> aware
>
> > that other people are out there. ;)
>
> Yeah, that's right, i'm not aware of other p2p communites out there...
> Imesh/WinMx/Kazaa/etc.. users seems to think bytes comes out of thin air ;)
> (Yet i have seen impressing dowload rates looking at some of those clients
>
> :-? )
>
> -Stיphane
>
>
>
>
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