Re: [linuxiran] Fwd: salam

[Aryan Ameri]

On Thursday 19 June 2003 08:30, Behnam Wrote:

Behnam first, let me make it clear that the official language of this 
mailing list is English, not Farsi. I have always sent my messages in 
English. However, I figured out that you might have problems reading my 
answers, if I write them in english. Thus, for this message only, I am 
going to break my tradition and write in Farsi. If you do underestand 
english, I advice you that from now on, write your messgaes in English. 

> salam khasteh nabashid man  5 ela 6 mahe ke ba linux ashna shodam

Salam, be donyaye vahshi ama zibaye Linux khosh amadi. Hala ke taze dari 
ba in system ashna mishi, behtare bedooni ke bazi ha (mesle man) 
motaghed hastand ke name doroste in system amel Linux nist, balke 
GNU/Linux hast. In ro ham bezar be hesabe yeki dige az ajayebe in 
system, ke hatta dar bareye esmesh ham ekhtelafe nazar hast.

> az noe redhat ghablan redhate 8 ro  dashtam vali alan ke 9 oomad

Man mamoolan maroofam hastam be inke az RedHat khosham nemiyad. Amma 
khob, hala ke felan RedHat dari, say kon ye modat bahash var beri va 
saay kon ke hatman bahash dasto panje narm koni, ta badan ke meghdari 
etelaatet dar bareye GNU/Linux bishtar shod, beri va ba distribution 
haye dige ham ashna beshi.

> va
> tooye site shoma didam ke neveshteh kde farsi rooye dastgaham redhate
> 9 ro nasb kardam azasham raziam ama man yeseri moshkel daram dar
> linux ke mikhastam be shoma doostan begam shayad in shagerde
> alaghemand ro rahnamaee konid man

Hamin ke ba Arash tamas gerefti va oon ham toro ozve mailing list karde, 
va hamin ke baraye peyda kardane javab hat ta inja oomadi, neshaneye 
alagheye to hast. Agar haminjoor edame bedi, tooli nemikeshe ke mibini 
daneshe ziyadi kasb kardi.

>  ba inke redhate 9 daram 
> nemitoonam dar mohite kde farsi type konam yani nemidoonam chi kar
> konam ta farsi ham type koneh 

Kodoom site ma ro khoondi? (ma chand ta site darim). Agar mikhahi dar 
KDE farsi type koni, maghaleyi ke dar http://www.farsikde.org/guide.php 
hast ro ba deghat bekhan. Bakhsh haye C, D, E, F va G ro bekhoon. 
Sayere bakhsh ha baraye to ehtemalan nabayad jaleb bashand. Agar 
mikhayi mohite graphical farsi dashte bashi, negahi be bakhshe H ham 
biyandaz. Har ja ro nafahmidi soal kon ta man vazeh tar tozih bedam.


Deghat kon ke RedHat bardashte va KDE ra kheyli avaz karde (Ke ehtemalan 
alan to mani in jomle ro nemifahmi) , banabar in maraheli ke oonja 
neveshte shode momkene kami ba male to fargh bokone.

 
>moshkele digam ine ke ye barnameh lazem
> daram ke besheh dar mohiteh kde ya gnome film did  man tooye irc
> chahaye linux  raftam  behem goftan donbale barnamehye mplayer
> begardam man ham be khode site mplayer raftam ama  mplayer baraye
> noskhehye 7.1 dasht goftam shayad nasb sheh ama migeke hamchin pakagy
> ro nadareh  mikham bebinam rahy hast ke besheh oonro baraye redhate 9
> dorost kard  

Aval az hame, har az gahi bad nist ke vasate name yek Enter bezani, ke 
namat ro paragraph bandi koni, ke beshe oon ro rahat tar khoond.

Hala beresim be soale jenabali, ba baraye javab dadan be oon lazem ast 
yek seri mafahim asasi manande source code va binary ro tozih dad.

Neveshti ke dar kar ba sakht afzar moshkel nadari, amma naneveshti ke 
aya tajrobeye barname nevisi ham dari ya na. Agar dashti, tozihe in 
ghestam kheyli rahat tar bood, amma khob dar har hal man saay mikonam 
ke hade aksare talasham ro bokonam ke in mafahim ro sade tozih bedam.

Hatman midooni ke har barnameye computeri ro bayad nevesht. Hala farghi 
nemikone oon barname chi bashe, che mikhad system amel bashe (mesle 
Windows ya GNU/Linux), che barnameye kari bashe (Office), dar har 
soorat, tamame in ha ro yek ya chand nafar barname nevis dore ham jam 
mishan, va yek zaboone barname nevisi ro entekhab mikonan (mesle C ya 
Java) va bad mishinan code minevisan. Dar haghighat har barnameye 
computeri, hezaran khat code hast, ke tavasote barname nevisan neveshte 
shode. 

Masaleyi ke inja hast, in hast ke in code ha ro (ke be yek zaboone 
computeri neveshte shode) computer nemifahme. Midooni ke computer 
faghat 0 va 1 mifahme. Banabar in nemidoone ke farzan ba code C++ bayad 
che kar kone, chon barash mafhoomi nadare. Inja hast ke yek barnameye 
dige be kar miyad be name compiler. Vazifeye compiler in hast ke code 
ro mikhoone, va oon ro tabdile be majmooeyi az 0 va 1 mikone, ke baraye 
machin ghabele dark bashe. be oon code ke barname nevis minevise migan 
source code, va be oon chizi ke compiler az source code tolid mikone 
migan binary (ya do doyi). source code ro ensan (agar barname nevisi 
balad bashe) mitoone bekhoone, amma computer oono nemitoone bekhoone, 
bar aks, binary ro computer mitoone bekhoone amma hich ensani nemitoone 
bekhoone. 

Tafavote asli ke beyne donyaye GNU/Linux va windows hast, ine ke barname 
haye GNU/Linux taghriban hame Open source hastan, amma dar donyaye 
windows in sadegh nist. Open source yani inke bar name nevis, vaghti ke 
barname ro nevesh, serfan binary ro be to nemide ke oon ro ejra koni, 
balke source code ro ham behet mide, ke to mitooni oon ro bekhooni, 
bebini in barname che joori kar mikone, age doost dari mitooni oon ro 
avaz koni, masalan yek chizayi khodet behesh ezafe koni, ya yek chizayi 
azash kam koni. Be in migan Open source, ya nam afzare azad (free 
software). Tooye GNU/Linux taghriban tamame barname ha open source 
hast, yani to source code ro ham dar ekhtiyar dari, va mitooni har 
balayi mikhay sare oon biyari. Tooye windows intor nist, yani kasi be 
to source code nemide, balke oon or compile mikone, va yek binary 
tahvile to mide ke to oon ro ejra koni (dar windows binary file yah 
.exe hastand)

Farghi ke hast ine ke tooye GNU/Linux, kheyli vaght ha barname nevis 
binary tolid nemikone, chon bar akse windows ke khodesh compiler nadare 
(va bayad oon ro joda bekhari) har GNU/Linux yek compiler dare (esmesh 
hast gcc). Barname nevisane GNU/Linux az oonjayi ke hame Open source 
kar mikonan, yani code ro ham dar ekhtiyar migozaran, leza kheyli vaght 
ha dige binary dorost nemikonan, chon migan ke in code, hala khodetoon 
ke compiler darin, berin in ro compiler konin, va bad ejra konidesh.

Masaleye digari ke hast, ine ke beyne GNU/Linux haye mokhtalef, binary 
compatibility vojood nadare. Yani to age Binary ke baraye SuSE compile 
shode ro bardari, rooye RedHat ejra nemishe, ya hatta, (dar morede to) 
age binary ke baraye redHat 7.1 compile shode ro bardari, dar RedHat 
9.0 ejra nemishe (binary tooye RedHat file haye .rpm hast, tooye Debian 
file haye .deb hast).

Amma source compatibility vojood dare, yani codi ke neveshte shode, ham 
rooye SuSE compile mishe, ham rooye RedHat 7.1 compile mishe, ham rooye 
RedHat 9.0

MPlayer (Ke ba ekhtelafi ziyad behtarin barnameye pakhshe film dar 
GNU/Linux hast, va taghriban az shire morgh ta jane adamizad ro pakh 
mikone) yeki az oon barna me hast ke barname nevis hash chandan 
khosheshoon nemiyad binary dorost konan (oon ha ham dalayele khodeshoon 
ro daran, az oon jayi ke didane DVD tooye GNU/Linux tebghe ghavanine 
maskhareye america mamnoo hast, banabar in tolide binary momkene baraye 
oon ha moshkelate hoghooghi tolid kone). Be hamin khater MPlayer file 
haye .rpm ya .deb dorost nemikonan, vali source code ro dar ekhtiyare 
to mizaran (ke file hae ta.gz hast). to bayad khodet oon ha ro compile 
koni.

compile kardan, baraye kasi ke aslan barname nevisi balad nist shayad 
aval kami ajib bashe (mamoolan baad chand ta dastoor type koni). amma 
MPlayer be soorate kamel rahnama dare ke dar 
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/ mohaya hast. Oon ro bekhoob, bad bayad 
betooni ke Mplayer ro compile koni baraye RedHat 9.0. Shayad barat ajib 
bahse, amma in beyn kheyli chiza yad khahi gereft.


>soale digam inke tooye elane shell  bayad che dastoory
> bedahim ta besheh yek site ro behalate text tamasha kard

Bayad yek browser text based dashte bashi. man lynx ro pishnehad 
mikonam. nemidoonam redht lynx dare ya na. age nadashte mitooni oon ro 
az site http://lynx.browser.org daryaft koni.

> bad soale
> badym ine ke   man bazi az mavagheh yek fily ro az internet daryaft
> mikonam oon fil baraye linux hast ama vali zipe va vaghti az halate
> zip daresh miaram misheh ye directory ke pore  filhaye marboot be
> barnamehye c++ toosh hast

Dar ghesmate barboot be MPlayer tozih dadam ke in chi hast.

> va soale akharamam inne ke man ba mozilla 
> nemitoonam  filhaye flash ro bebinam  

Mamoolan hich GNU/Linux flash nadarae. Ba in vojood flash baraye 
GNU/Linux faraham hast, mitooni oon ro az htp://www.macromedia.com 
daryaft koni. donbale Flash Player Plug-in for Netscape compatible 
begard. Baraye Linux ham vojood dare. plugin ro begir, ba oon ro tooye 
~/.mozilla/plugins gharar bede. mozilla ro beband va mojadadan aghaz 
kon va bayad flash ro beyne liste plugin hate mozilla bebini. Ba 
konqueror ham kar mikone.


>bazi mavagheh ham filhaee ro
> migiram ke  engar bayad dastkarishoon konam ta install beshan  inharo
> ham komakam konid mamnoon misham 

Kami bishtar tozih bede ke che file hayi hastan?

>man alan taghriban az hamoon 6 mahe
> pish ke ba linux ashna shodam ta alan moshkelatamo kasi hal nakardeh
> az har ky porsidam javab nadadeh  age shoma behem komak konid besiar
> sepasgozaretoon misham . dar morede inke cheghadr az commputer
> baladam ta chejoori javabamo bedin begam ke man sakht afzar be
> andazehye khobi balad hastam chon alan az lahaze sakht afzary ba
> linux hich moshkely nadaram narm afzaram all windows va registry
> windows ro ta hady balad hastam mamnoon az shoma khodanegahdar .


Behnam, bayad bedani koja donbale komak begardi. 

Mailing list (ye jayi mesle inja) jayi hast ke yek ede adam ha dar oon 
ozv mishan, har kasi name mizani, oon name bara tamame aza mire. 
Injoori in ha ba ham harf mizanan va tabadole nazar mikonan.

Ghodaret GNU/Linux va Open Source dar mailing list nahofte hast. 
Taghriban har projeyi dar GNU/Linux bara khodesh mailing list dare. 
Mplayer mailing list dare, OpenOffice 15 ta mailing dare, redHat kolli 
mailing dare yani baraye har version taghriban ye mailing list dare.

Boro mailing liste RedHat 9.0 ro az site RedHat peyda kon, va oon to ozv 
sho, ye modati chizi napors, va fahgat neveshteyahe digaran ro bekhoon 
va bebin ke chejoori dar mailing list ha kar mikonan. Age too compile 
Mplayer ham moshkel dari, hich jayi behtar az mailing list oon nist.

Mailing list ha jayi hastan ke mitooni kheyli az oon ha chiz yad begiri.

Cheers 
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Aryan Ameri