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[Chicken-hackers] Make wars
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Ivan Shmakov |
Subject: |
[Chicken-hackers] Make wars |
Date: |
Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:43:26 +0600 |
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First of all, I know that the Autotools approach has been
criticized for quite a long time. Surely, I can understand the
people having a hard feeling with all the bunches of
autogenerated code. However, considering the initial goals of
the Autotools, namely, the ability to build the software on a
number of divergent systems, and the ability to rely on only a
few software packages generally available at that time, I have
to admit that these ``bloating'' practices were necessary.
I believe that would the portability be the primary goal for BSD
Make, and would only the GNU system be considered as the target
for the GNU Autotools, there'd rather be ``BSD Autotools'' and
``GNU Make Library'', with all the problems that were raised
there. Namely, the huge amount of generated code for Autotools,
and that one rarely sees a system-specific Make library used on
any other system.
As to why I've chosen to implement `srcdir' rather than
`OBJDIR', the software one's using alters the way one's
thinking. I won't probably be totally wrong if I'd say that
I've build about 100 different packages with Autotools-based
build systems. I know pretty well how these build systems are
used, how they're implemented, what are their gotchas, etc.
Hence, `srcdir' support appears to me both intuitive, simple to
use, and simple to implement (with GNU Make.)
On the other hand, I've never used BSD Make, and most of my
knowledge about it is due to reading related materials that
Google brings to me and due to reading the posts like the ones
emerged recently in the list.
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.
As to considering a transition to BSD Make, I'm not the one to
make such decision for this project. Thus, I'm providing the
code for the build system currently in use. Would the one be
too difficult for me to deal with, I'd cease writing patches for
it. Perhaps, I'd consider making an Autotools-based one in a
private branch as well.
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: separate build directory support for Chicken, (continued)
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: separate build directory support for Chicken, Peter Bex, 2008/01/13
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: separate build directory support for Chicken, Elf, 2008/01/13
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: separate build directory support for Chicken, Peter Bex, 2008/01/13
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: separate build directory support for Chicken, Elf, 2008/01/13
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: separate build directory support for Chicken, felix winkelmann, 2008/01/13
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: separate build directory support for Chicken, Elf, 2008/01/13
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: separate build directory support for Chicken, Elf, 2008/01/13
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: separate build directory support for Chicken, Peter Bex, 2008/01/13
- [Chicken-hackers] Re: separate build directory support for Chicken, Aleksej Saushev, 2008/01/13
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: separate build directory support for Chicken, Elf, 2008/01/13
- [Chicken-hackers] Make wars,
Ivan Shmakov <=
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Make wars, Elf, 2008/01/13
- [Chicken-hackers] Re: Make wars, Ivan Shmakov, 2008/01/13
- [Chicken-hackers] Re: Make wars, Aleksej Saushev, 2008/01/13
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: Make wars, felix winkelmann, 2008/01/13
- [Chicken-hackers] Re: Make wars, Ivan Shmakov, 2008/01/14
- [Chicken-hackers] Re: Make wars, Aleksej Saushev, 2008/01/14
- [Chicken-hackers] Re: Make wars, Ivan Shmakov, 2008/01/14
- [Chicken-hackers] Re: Make wars, Aleksej Saushev, 2008/01/16
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: Make wars, John Cowan, 2008/01/16
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] Re: Make wars, Ivan Raikov, 2008/01/16