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Re: [Auth]Third Meeting of DotGNU dg-auth-wg

From: David Sugar
Subject: Re: [Auth]Third Meeting of DotGNU dg-auth-wg
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:36:20 -0400
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As I had been away for family reasons the last few weeks, I had not had a 
chance to talk about my recent trip to Europe.   Strangely enough, most of 
what I ended up talking about was authentication, which is relevent to the 
work of this particular group.  In part, I was showing people with some 
general diagrams the relative merits and risks of each authentication and 
identify model, including, of course, passport, both original and federated 
versions, as well as some of the ones we have talked about here and others 
that have been proposed, and other things like idsec, etc.  I think this 
issues of authentication, identity, and privacy, still resonates strongly and 
it becomes easer for developers to understand the risks and merits of each 
model when shown side by side that way.

What was curious is how hard it was for some to grasp the idea of completely 
anonymous authentication.  In fact, anonymous authentication as a concept is 
used successfully by the cash floors in Manhatten, and if it can be a concept 
trusted enough to authenticate the movement of billions of dollars of 
currency each day, certainly the idea of fully anonymous authentication is 
something that we can do on the internet with commercial acceptance.  By the 
time I arrived in France, I had found a fun method to explain anonymous 
authentication using a pre-trained audience member.  

I wish I had been given more time to explain in detail some of the specific 
stuff that was being done in the auth working group, macs, freeport, etc, in 
greater detail, but I was always in a very narrow time slot and I also needed 
to talk about pnet and other aspects of dotgnu.


On Saturday 27 July 2002 09:31 am, John wrote:
> No, you need to rent a time machine for this one. I recommend renting a
> Ranged-Rover Model X-7TS; if you don't already own a converted
> cold-fusion powered De Lorean. Though a bit pricey the extended range
> (guaranteed for 60 million years or 60,000 space relative miles,
> whichever come first) makes the X-7TS a much better rental for after the
> meeting you can whisk yourself back to hunt dinosaurs! The De Lorean, by
> contrast, is only capable of 9,999 years BCE and +8000 years ACE, which
> will severely limit your enjoyment. Add to this limitted time
> displacement the known problem with the fuel injectors and dependence on
> processed fuel and you might find yourself stuck in some antideluvian
> era waiting for man to invent plastics.
> In short: yeah... thanks for the catch.
> John Le'Brecage
> David Sugar wrote:
> >I assume you mean the 28th...
> >
> >>The next meeting is set for Sunday July 21, 1:30 PM EST, +5 UCT. on IRC,
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