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Re: [DotGNU]Implement RDF in a Universal Data Structure


From: Seth Johnson
Subject: Re: [DotGNU]Implement RDF in a Universal Data Structure
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:04:19 -0500

Norbert Bollow wrote:
> 
> Seth Johnson <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > > I want to take this to a higher level.  Instead of stopping at the
> > > assertion structure of RDF, I propose that we implement a
> > > similarly universal generalization about relations (among data
> > > entities).
> 
> Interesting idea.  I like it.  I'm not sure though whether it will be
> useful for any practical purposes.

LOL

Actually, it's useful for all practical purposes, and that's the point. 
I've explained this a tiny bit more in some subsequent emails.

And it works.  It just needs to be implemented in a GPLed environment, and
it needs to be sprung on the world fully formed, because it solves a lot of
the information freedom political struggles all at once in a very cool way. 
We don't want the content control interests to throw a monkey wrench into
the works before we can get it off the ground.

Seth Johnson



> 
> > > Build this into DotGNU.  Make a language that speaks in terms of
> > > these abstractions.  I call the language CCL, or Context Control
> > > Language, and I call the basic structure of a context "packet" or
> > > "message" CTP, or Context Transfer Protocol.  CTP can either be
> > > defined as something immediately above TCP and immediately below
> > > the application layer, in a binary way, or we could define it as
> > > something correlative with HTTP, in a more textual way.
> 
> Whereever you put it, until it has proved its usefulness, it'll be an
> experimental project... therefore, I wouldn't expect other DotGNU
> development projects to introduce additional complexity in order to
> accomodate your CCL and/or CTP.
> 
> Peter Minten <address@hidden> replied:
> 
> > In the infosphere (the world of info, cyberspace is a subset of it)
> > everything can be expressed using subject-link-object
> > terminology. So everything can be expressed as RDF.  Or more exactly
> > everything can be expressed as a web.
> 
> This is true.  However, it is also true that everything in the
> infosphere can be expressed as a stream of binary digits.
> 
> The real question is, what way of representing some information
> is useful for the task at hand?  The answer will depend on the
> information and on what you want to do with it.
> 
> For example, in Abdabi (the service discovery system that I'm
> planning to put together) RDF will use used for input and
> output of service descriptions.  However, internally, for
> purposes of data processing (selecting an interesting subset
> of the available information) a different data representation
> will be used.
> 
> Greetings, Norbert.
> 
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