RE: Interactive guide for new users

[Ihor Radchenko]

> But again, that's not an opinion that we should
> remove it by default.  I'm just questioning the
> declaration that it's already (newly) established
> that it should be shown by default.

For example, toolbar is used to help new users with interactive isearch.
It shows next/previous match buttons to help users, who don't know about
C-s/C-r. Moreover, it also provides buttons to show docstring and
provides tooltips about key bindings in isearch-mode-map.

Best,
Ihor

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> > 2. disable tool-bar-mode
>> 
>> We have just established that [the tool bar]
>> is important for newbies.
>
> Without expressing a preference for the default
> behavior here, let me ask whether it's true that
> we've established that tool-bar on is important
> for newbies.
>
> Menu-bar, yes.  Or a hamburger-menu or whatever.
> But tool-bar?  Have we really "established" that?
>
> A menu-bar is quite helpful for discovery, which
> is important.  We want users to discover features
> and key bindings.  A tool-bar isn't so useful for
> discovery, I think.
>
> But again, that's not an opinion that we should
> remove it by default.  I'm just questioning the
> declaration that it's already (newly) established
> that it should be shown by default.