Re: [Gnumed-devel] Mims Annual Data for gnuMed available

[Karsten Hilbert]

This is excellent news.

> After on-going liason with Margaret Pritchard in MIMS, they have agreed to 
> allow us to use the data-structure of the MIMS annual plus an ongoing supply 
> of at least 6 month old data (minus the jpgs of all the pills) for 
> development and demonstration purposes.
This is quite precisely what we need for AU purposes.
Nevertheless we will have to be able to interface German
databases, too, so the previously discussed push-to-jump
interface is still "needed".

> Obviously any resultant MIMS browser used in production desktop needing the 
> uptodate data would have to be paid for by users (which of course they 
> currently do in AU anyway).
No one ever thought any differently.

> I think this is a significant concession from the company.
It is and we should surely progress on using that offer.
Whether inclusion should be slated for 0.1 or for 0.1.x is
another matter.

BTW, are we free to use the *data* they provide in *our*
structure - eg can we import the data into drugref ?

> My feeling is that getting the MIMS annual data is good, and that we should 
> re-develop the mini full PI browser that I developed several years ago.
Agree. My suggestion would be to

1) develop your mini full PI browser based directly on the MIMS schema
2) interface Hilmar's browser via a "driver" to that structure
3) incorporate MIMS data into drugref and interface MIMS *data* in drugref

Basically we will always have two different types of drug data
sources: Companies such as MIMS that give us access to their
*data* - which we can then tightly integrate into GnuMed as we
see fit. And companies which "allow" us to interface with the
API of their own proprietary browser for their drug data. The
latter is also needed here in DE since there is a bunch of
drug DBs who will not give us the data directly any close-by
day.

I think, however, for the initial release we are perfectly
fine with interfacing MIMS (even directly) so we can
demonstrate what we intend to do. The next steps would then be
to make access to that data technically generic (Hilmar already
did most of that) while still only interfacing MIMS as the
only source. And then "plug in" other databases, starting with
MIMS data inside drugref.

Does that sound like a plan ? Now we only need people to do it ;-)

> See Margaret's email below:
We should certainly put up a copy of that mail on the Wiki
under "3rd party licensing" if Margaret agrees.

> ==========================================
> 
> Hi Richard
> I've discussed our phone conversation with Anna Mickell and we don't see
> that there would be an issue with what we discussed.
> 
> We can provide the data structure for the MIMS Full prescribing
> information and 6 month old data, excluding the product images for use
> in the Open Source GNUMED project. This is on the understanding that if
> acceptable then the use of the current data would only be used on a paid
> basis. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
> 
> Margaret Prichard
> Integration Support Specialist
> MIMS Australia Locked Bag 3000, St Leonards NSW 1590
> MIMS New Zealand Box 31348, Milford Auckland
> Ph: +61 2 9902 7700 Fx: +61 2 9902 7701 Free Call (NZ) 0508 646 769
> Medicines & Decision Support Databases
> http://www.mims.com.au/poc
> ==============================================

Karsten
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