Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users

[Philip Kaludercic]

Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:

> On 13.02.2021 10:17, Robert Thorpe wrote:
>> Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:
>> 
>>> On 12.02.2021 07:42, Robert Thorpe wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with Jean Louis on that too.  I think C-z C-z is not good
>>>> enough.  Every other terminal application uses C-z by itself, it's a
>>>> convention.  It's been that way for decades.  If you write a terminal
>>>> application and do nothing special then C-z will suspend it.  That's
>>>> because it sends SIGTSTP.
>>>
>>> Could we someday stop considering Emacs a "terminal application"? Yes,
>>> it has a version that works in the terminal, but it's limited in
>>> features compared to the graphical one.
>> I only use graphical Emacs myself.  But I think that terminal Emacs
>> is
>> still important, as Jean Louis says.
>> Lots of people who have started using Emacs recently came to from
>> the
>> terminal.  You can see that on Emacs Reddit.
>
> Those are often former Vim developers, too. So it might not be due to
> the nature of their work, but largely due to their previous habits.
>
> It's not a 100% conclusion of the survey we have referred to previously,
> but its results state that ~30% of all users are in the terminal, ~30%
> of all users are using a Vim key bindings emulation, and ~30% of all 
> users have been using Vim as their primary editor previously. They
> can't be all the same users, but it's an interesting coincidence.

We do have the raw data from https://emacssurvey.org/2020/, it is
possible to how these factors influence one another, but in the end, I
don't think that makes terminal Emacs usage illegitimate.

-- 
        Philip K.

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