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Re: [Traverso-user] Traverso forum

From: Greg Alexander
Subject: Re: [Traverso-user] Traverso forum
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:46:31 -0400
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14)

Hi again -

Well, screenshots for you to decide:

I right clicked in the control area at the left of the track and then
moused over to the Sheet menu, to show an example of what's different.
It's clear that the transition is not complete, but the unique
keyboard-click behavior of older traverso is clearly being replaced with
more traditional control+shift+x sort of things. I think really it's just
cosmetic -- I didn't use it enough to say if it is still as convenient to
use.  So it's definitely not abandoned, but on the other hand I would say
that if the goal was to just finish up the rough spots in 0.49, it's
going on a different path.  That kind of thing happens with volunteer
software. :)

Anyways, I didn't need anything complicated so I am happy with the gift
of 0.49.

Oh and I just installed liblilv-dev (debian-unstable) to get it to build.
I'm still using gcc 4.6.3, but the other header issue shouldn't be too
hard to sort out...  cmake/automake sort of things are never quite as
good as you'd want for dependencies.

- Greg

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:05:21PM +0200, v4hn wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:52:22AM -0400, Greg Alexander wrote:
> > [...] It basically looks like someone has been
> > totally restructuring traverso so that it looks basically the same as
> > every other DAW, abandoning the quirky keyboard interface (i.e., no more
> > double-keyboard-click functions).  I don't mean to criticize that
> > decision, but it means that at the moment the git repository is much less
> > functional and polished than the old one, and simultaneously has
> > abandoned everything I found charming about the old one (I *really* love
> > the keyboard/mouse balance in the 0.49.2 release traverso).
> It would be a real shame to see this innovative interface design gone,
> but I kind of doubt your observations here, sorry. Though I can not
> check it myself because the current version in git doesn't even
> compile with gcc 4.7.1 due to a missing unistd include in Project.cpp and
> > /home/v4hn/repos/traverso/src/plugins/PluginManager.h:27:23: fatal error: 
> > lilv/lilv.h: No such file or directory
> even though cmake tells me it disabled lilv support because it's not 
> available..
> > On the other
> > hand, the new traverso surely would have much broader appeal (easier
> > learning curve), if anyone did finish the rest of the transition.
> It's a fully featured DAW. No one cares for an easy learning curve for
> such a tool! People can still use audacity if the prefer something simple.
> v4hn

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