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Re: [] Welcome back to

From: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [] Welcome back to
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:26:01 -0500

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Mike Linksvayer <address@hidden> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 15:31, address@hidden <address@hidden> wrote:
> Totally. Here is my first problem. I don't think advocacy works, anymore.

I'm not sure what that means.

> What can do that is productive? provide a directory of
> services? A badge like CC licenses with a link to make an
> updated form of webring for sites, with some distincly compliant features? A
> type of certification for sites that don't sell people's data and souls to
> the devil? That is also a potential revenue stream for the project.

webring! Someone add that to the wishlist.

> I guess being a social club like CC is good for us,

You mean [ilided]? CC really ain't much of a social club. People use
the licenses instrumentally and expressively, and both accomplish

hahahah ;) waiting for @mlinksva on that one ;)
> but how can we really
> get more people onto this line of thinking and move this beyond a bunch of
> blog posts, friends hanging out and watching ourselves in the mirror
> becoming the cranky long bears we both admire and don't want to be ;)

That last is an awesome quote!

Oops, lost effect! long bear(d)s :)
> Call to action! Blat!

The action is in building and deploying software. This list just has a
limited role, and that's fine. There isn't much of a place for
thinking about cloud, services, blah issues outside of the corporate
buzzword bubble and informed by free software; I think that's valuable
in itself. So yeah, blog posts and hanging out. So long as lots more
people ape Evan and actually build faif stuff that federates.


Yeah, aping Evan is a good thing. Status.Net has done some good things! and are great! (tooting own horn or something ;)

Agree mike, good to hang, but think there can be more, but we shouldn't get too crazy with expectation. Free Network Services Certification and that wishlist of projects is still not implemented completely ;)

Personally, with all projects came to conclusion a few years ago have to make stacks of cash as successful biz to prove our model is better and/or get more people onto this line of thinking of ethical practices that support user freedom and autonomy.

There is way too much pressure on Status.Net to tow this line han solo. We need more services and businesses :)


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