Re: "Jaguar" additions

[Marcus Müller]

On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, at 08:58 AM, Jeff Teunissen wrote:

> CoreFoundation has no relation at all to NeXT; it was entirely created 
> by
> Apple as a C API to do things similar to what Foundation does. Apple's
> Foundation is itself based on CoreFoundation now, or so I hear.

This is correct. You can see it in all stacktraces. Some time ago Nat! 
<address@hidden> did make some benchmarking of the new 
Foundation (CF based) vs. the old OPENSTEP Foundation - with disastrous 
results. The new Foundation is much slower than the old Foundation 
was ... part of the CoreFoundation code is open (included in Darwin), 
sporting some interesting bugs ;-) Nat! found several and reported them 
some time ago, I'm not sure if they're gone however (altogether we 
reported around 150 Bugs ...). Interesting thing to note: Apple's 
Bugreporter dubbed 'Radar' once allowed you to see all open issues - 
making it possible for us to track an NFS crash bug in their database as 
being known since '98. 'Radar' is closed now, you can't look at other 
incidents that you don't own anymore ...


> I'm kinda trying to figure out just what the point of this is; playing
> follow-the-leader is useless, in large part because there are huge areas
> where "the leader" simply can't be followed, because of trade mark,
> license, patent issues, or just the fact that they have a _lot_ of 
> people
> working on OSX full-time.

Although I do agree on this issue, there's no reason to prevent people 
from at least trying to catch up. Personally I do think that Zeroconf 
isn't that important and other things (especially the GUI) have to be 
pushed more, but then again that's just my opinion. If someone has 
talent & energy in implementing the Zeroconf stuff, why not?

But concerning feature-completeness: GNUstep wasn't feature complete 
compared with Apple's Foundation long before Jaguar. Think about 
Applescript and its extensions in Apple's Foundation. You won't find 
them in GNUstep (thank God for that! ;-).

Cheers,

  Marcus


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