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Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users


From: Jean Louis
Subject: Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 13:21:16 +0300
User-agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07)

* Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> [2021-02-09 11:07]:
> 
> On 2021-02-09, at 07:41, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
> 
> > Job control is important part of computer operation, that is why C-z
> > shall remain untouched, just how it is now.
> 
> But why bind C-z when Emacs is run under a graphical windowing
> system?

>From description of `suspend-frame':

Do whatever is right to suspend the current frame.
Calls ‘suspend-emacs’ if invoked from the controlling tty device,
‘suspend-tty’ from a secondary tty device, and
‘iconify-or-deiconify-frame’ from a graphical frame.

It iconifies the window and user can use other windows. That is close
to what C-z does in terminal.

Having C-z do that in X is quite good and harmonized to what C-z does
in the shell.

I do believe that many people do not use that feature and that people
may re-assign C-z to something else. But those are personal
preferences, it would not be good to simple take away C-z from users
as that breaks habits and introduces new problems.

But me for example, I do not use window frames or window icons such as
maximize, minimize, iconify in my Window Manager. I have used various
window managers, now using IceWM. To iconify the window by using mouse
I would need to search in the anyway hidden toolbar for the proper
window, then right mouse click and then minimize. That is
tiresome. Alternative is that I do Alt-F9 that minimizes window.

But then again I am user of various window managers. In other window
manager I would not maybe know or remember what is the key to minimize
the window.

If I only remember C-z for Emacs that works at all times independent
of window manager. My `z' is much closer to my left hand fingers than
Alt-F9 as Window Manager function.

That is why C-z is way better and handier solution to minimize the frame.

Jean



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