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Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users
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Jean Louis |
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Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users |
Date: |
Wed, 10 Feb 2021 13:21:16 +0300 |
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Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) |
* Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> [2021-02-09 11:07]:
>
> On 2021-02-09, at 07:41, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
>
> > Job control is important part of computer operation, that is why C-z
> > shall remain untouched, just how it is now.
>
> But why bind C-z when Emacs is run under a graphical windowing
> system?
>From description of `suspend-frame':
Do whatever is right to suspend the current frame.
Calls ‘suspend-emacs’ if invoked from the controlling tty device,
‘suspend-tty’ from a secondary tty device, and
‘iconify-or-deiconify-frame’ from a graphical frame.
It iconifies the window and user can use other windows. That is close
to what C-z does in terminal.
Having C-z do that in X is quite good and harmonized to what C-z does
in the shell.
I do believe that many people do not use that feature and that people
may re-assign C-z to something else. But those are personal
preferences, it would not be good to simple take away C-z from users
as that breaks habits and introduces new problems.
But me for example, I do not use window frames or window icons such as
maximize, minimize, iconify in my Window Manager. I have used various
window managers, now using IceWM. To iconify the window by using mouse
I would need to search in the anyway hidden toolbar for the proper
window, then right mouse click and then minimize. That is
tiresome. Alternative is that I do Alt-F9 that minimizes window.
But then again I am user of various window managers. In other window
manager I would not maybe know or remember what is the key to minimize
the window.
If I only remember C-z for Emacs that works at all times independent
of window manager. My `z' is much closer to my left hand fingers than
Alt-F9 as Window Manager function.
That is why C-z is way better and handier solution to minimize the frame.
Jean
- Re: no job control in this shell (was: Proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users), (continued)
- Re: no job control in this shell (was: Proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users), Emanuel Berg, 2021/02/10
- Re: Proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Jean Louis, 2021/02/10
- Re: Proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Skip Montanaro, 2021/02/09
- Re: Proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Francis Belliveau, 2021/02/10
- Re: Proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Marcin Borkowski, 2021/02/09
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Jean Louis, 2021/02/09
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Yuri Khan, 2021/02/09
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Jean Louis, 2021/02/10
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Jean Louis, 2021/02/10
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Marcin Borkowski, 2021/02/09
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users,
Jean Louis <=
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Gregory Heytings, 2021/02/09
- C-z, C-c, job control commands [was: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users], tomas, 2021/02/09
- Re: C-z, C-c, job control commands [was: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users], Skip Montanaro, 2021/02/09
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Jean Louis, 2021/02/10
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Marcin Borkowski, 2021/02/10
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Jean Louis, 2021/02/10
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Emanuel Berg, 2021/02/10
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Jean Louis, 2021/02/10
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Gregory Heytings, 2021/02/10
- Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users, Jean Louis, 2021/02/10