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Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users


From: Jean Louis
Subject: Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 22:42:59 +0300
User-agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07)

* Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor 
<help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> [2021-02-10 22:33]:
> Jean Louis wrote:
> 
> > There is no danger in shell as C-z almost in all cases means
> > "suspend job". Any other editor I know in shell is suspended
> > by C-z.
> 
> The other day I wrote that it didn't work with tmux. But that
> was incorrect, it was zsh that made it not work.
> 
> With bash, it works both ways (`suspend-frame', then fg) in
> a plain Linux VT (tty) but also in a VT with tmux on top.
> 
> In zsh, suspend-frame doesn't work in a tmux pane but it does
> work with a plain tty. However fg still doesn't work, it says
> the by-now familiar 'no job control in this shell'.
> 
> zsh should be one of the more common shells these days, while
> not as common as bash, of course. Still common enough to make
> one hesitant about the degree of standardization in this case.

What I know is that I learned job control very early when learning
about the shell and I use it frequently. I do expect from each shell
program to allow me to suspend it. Those running and listing programs
must be also interruptable. And I also expect to be able to stop the
output by using Control-S. This I am writing here not related to
Emacs, but to give user experience testimony. That is how I have
worked over last decades.

Related to zsh:
http://zsh.sourceforge.net/Doc/Release/Jobs-_0026-Signals.html




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