Re: [Koha-devel] [URGENT] Move away from Savannah/CVS

[Paul POULAIN]

Joshua M. Ferraro a écrit :
> Hi folks,
>
> This is the kind of email I hate to have to write. We're
> facing some urgency on a rather important issue: Savannah
> has been down for two days now, and we're going to have to
> make some quick decisions to avoid losing any more work
> time.

mmm... thinking a little bit more, I think it's not that urgent, but 
that's something we have to do anyway. So let's work on it now ;-)

> I caught paul/hdl this morning, and we feel a move to SVN
> with hosting from Google is the best solution:
> http://code.google.com/hosting/

my 2 main concerns here are :
- use a widely known VCS. We need MORE developpers, not LESS. And I 
strongly think it's the main concern we must achieve here.
- use a quick / efficient / ... solution. At least more than CVS ;-)

Once we will have choosen the solution, let's go with the hosting 
platform & tools wee need.

SVN sounds a good candidate to me. Distributed solutions sounds less 
heavily spread, and I really don't nothing with them. I've read arch doc 
a while ago, and I was not really enthousiasmed by my reading (but had 
no experience, so it's just a feeling)

Another + point with SVN is that it's "cvs child", so it's quite easy to 
move from one to the other.

Hosting tools / platform.

savannah is not only a repository, but also a ML system, bug tracking, 
release & news system...
- Release system is really poor (far more poor than sourceforge : we 
can't have a clear separation of the different versions : just a "ftp 
website". That's probably why jmf & LibLime got so many feedbacks with 
2.3.0 UNSTABLE version, but that's not written clearly on the website)
- we use bugs.koha.org for bug tracking
- we have www.koha.org & www.koha-fr.org for most news.

So, who can host a SVN repository and, but that's less important, other 
tools ?

i'm a little bit afraid by google here : librarian world really looks 
ggl as "evil" (I agree with slef opinion here), and I don't want to be 
counter-productive by moving to ggl too quickly (some ppl of proprietary 
software could rise the fact & use it against our commercials offers 
-even if I agree it would be stupid, we can't ignore that...-)

Thus, I think the SVN choice is the good one, but I would prefer another 
hosting system.
Savannah works quite correctly, we can afford a 2 days failure rarely. 
We moved from SF for 2 reasons : ML very very very slow & SF position 
not being so clear for the future.
If savannah offered SVN, I would say "move to SVN, but keep savannah".

gna.org offers a quite correct hosting platform, works fine (it hosts 
OpenCataloger, that will reach v1.0 quite soon now, and Dolibarr, a 
software I use for my invoice. Never had problems with it).

I'm open to another proposal, but not enthusiasm by google.

Last note : I don't think that's the kind of decision we should take in 
1 day.
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