Re: [Mldonkey-users] FAQ, Patches, Stalled-Forever Downloads, Slowness, Settings

[lenny bruce]

On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 08:42  PM, Martin wrote:
> hey... all comments written with best intentions but well... it's late 
> at night here... ok it's early in the morning thou... damn

no, this is good, I need discussion on this stuff to figure it out...
plus there have to be people with similar problems.


> lenny bruce wrote...
> > and the "suggestions" pages I've seen seem to be written by people 
> > who have political views insisting we should upload more than we 
> > download so I don't trust the advice because it seems to be skewed 
> > against the user.
>
> No comment here

are the P2P politics really weird here in this group too?
go ahead and embarrass them... it's good for them to see how psycho 
they are.

I've heard of lawyers forcing a whole community to pussyfoot around one 
kid who is allergic to peanut butter... instead of putting the kid in a 
bubble, the parents insist nobody can have peanut butter at all... 
because their kid might bump into a wall and get the peanut oil on 
him... it turns out peanut butter is in an incredible number of foods 
and they've forbid all of them to everybody! they've pushed insane 
garbage on people because everybody's afraid to stand up to them. I saw 
this on television. some people cooperated because they thought the 
kid's parents would be generous on other issues but they're not... this 
kid's parents are only insane and only want what they want.


> > Originally I tried max_hard_upload of 12 and max_hard_download of 
> > 192...
> > but I discovered max_hard_upload over 9 disconnects my PPPoE 
> > connection
> > and max_hard_upload over 7 kills my download speed.
>
> mldonkey has some issues with not caring about those limits (in 
> current cvs its even worst...)

"strict_bandwidth" doesn't help with this?



> settings depend on your intentions for the p2p networks (want to leech
> / want to share)
>
> > I don't mind uploading but I'm doing a lot more uploading than 
> > downloading.
> > I thought the benefit of being able to download from so many people at
> > once was that each person didn't have to upload incredible amounts...
>
> sum(network_upload) == sum (network_download)

I keep seeing this...
I assume it means you can only upload what you download

but we have ASYMMETRICAL connections
I thought the whole goal here was to overcome that fact
by having us download a little bit from a tremendous number of people

> > "Casino" (in three 800 MB pieces) has been hanging around for NINE 
> > DAYS
> > now!
>
> mldonkey has some problems with well spread files...but hey it works
> great on rare files :)
>
> > how do I get them to move?
>
> give them some time....

more than NINE days?



> the credit you earned for uploading is saved by the clients
> you uploaded to... (otherwise you could get yourself unlimited credits 
> :)

that's good to know

> So you cant lose them by deleting some files on your harddisk...
> But finally yes: if you also remove you downloads.ini your client_md4
> will be lost and a new one will be created...then nobody will
> recognize you as the guy uploading so much...and your credits are lost.

that wasn't clear... and it sort of still isn't.

I thought it was generating the client md4 to indicate what version we 
had
(because patches and other things make for probably 20 possible 
versions)




okay, then let's back up and ask the question another way:

so I keep downloads.ini... what happens when the prefs change concept?
(because I've noticed between versions the names of different prefs 
change)

does MLDonkey handle these variations in the prefs format
and update the prefs you have to match the new format?

or does MLDonkey freak out and your bad prefs ruin everything?



is there some correct way to install mldonkey?

it's occurred to me through accidental launches
that one could have the binaries in one location
and the settings and temp/incoming folders in a second location

it all depends on where you launch mldonkey from



> > is this guy's advice nuts? how do you people upgrade your distrib 
> > folders?
>
> Distib folders? You mean the cvs-source-folder or the mldonkey-home 
> dir (should not be the same....!) mldonkey homedir will only be 
> updated by moving a new compiled binary in there and overwriting the 
> old one.... how to update cvs....well you know that...
>
> >  I bet all of this guy's advice is wrong!
>
> it depends...

that's what I'm saying about this guy... 
http://homepage.mac.com/michelmoreau.
he's giving Mac OS X people advice and I just know it's all entirely 
wrong.

he's got us working out of the folder called "mldonkey-distrib"
which gets moved away from the cvs folder to a new location
(something within the bin path)

I build my cvs version
then grab the new distrib folder (adding the new bins)
and use that to update my /sw/bin/mldonkey-distrib folder
(which I picked because /sw/bin is where Fink installs stuff)


(Fink is a modified Debian-style package manager
that implements a sort of "FreeBSD Ports" kind of thing for Mac OS X,
since we're "NeXTStep/OpenStep/FreeBSD/OpenBSD on acid")





> > max_sources_per_file = 600  - too many?
> > min_left_sources = 200      - left? right? good? I don't know
>
> depends....what files your downloading (popular/well spread) and how 
> many of those

I try to avoid files that don't have many sources... is that bad?
maybe I should try to get some of those files I passed by
if getting rare files is MLDonkey's strength...




> > enable_server = true - if that's valid then explain this:
> > Exception Failure("Network.connected_servers not implemented by
> > Donkey:server") in print_connected_servers--- Connected to 2 servers 
> > on
> > the Donkey network ---
>
> you want you mldonkey to run as server? still experimental...

no, I have no idea what I'm doing - I'm guessing.
I'll turn it off if it doesn't work.



> > could somebody explain it...
> > I understand the GTK-GUI but the web interface isn't obvious
> > in the downloads section there's a heading of P/R/C over two 
> > checkboxes
>
> Let me guess...mozilla? I remember there were some problems with the
> web interface and some browser...AFAIR not mldonkeys fault....

I normally use Chimera, which is Mozilla in drag.
I tried it with Internet Explorer after you said this and it's even 
worse there.

What browser does MLDonkey like?
Why would it prefer the Nazi Microsoft Internet Explorer?
Don't all free-thinking freedom-loving people use Mozilla?




I forgot to ask about
"random_order_download"
"upload_power"
"sources_per_chunk"
"reward_power"



lenny bruce
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