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Re: [Pan-users] Re: Feature Request: configurable quoting character
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Torstein Sunde |
Subject: |
Re: [Pan-users] Re: Feature Request: configurable quoting character |
Date: |
Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:15:35 +0100 |
Toby A Inkster wrote:
> But they are not non-standard. Indeed, no recognised standards body
> has ever set a standard for quoting. ":" has been used by tin as the
> default quote character for $DEITY knows how long. "|" is also a
> commonly used quote character.
"Son-of-RFC1036" states that quoting 'SHOULD be done by prefacing each
quoted line ([...]) with the character ">"'. I know this isn't a
formally recognized standard, but to my knowledge, it's widely accepted.
I searched the most recent articles on news.software.readers for "tin",
and the followups I found (most of them posted with tin) were using ">".
I tested how your quoting alternatives looked on Pan (0.13.3.93),
Sylpheed-claws (0.8.3) and Sylpheed (0.8.3). Pan recognised ":" and
"|" but not "TAI>". The two others recognised "TAI>" but not ":" or
"|". Claws can be set to also recognise other characters, "plain"
Sylpheed can't. Only ">" was recognised (coloured) by all.
I also fail to see what sending alternate quoting characters should be
*useful* for, unless there are groups that "require" it.
> Quoting with initials is considered standard practice on Fidonet.
> Further, proper (non-nested) consistant quoting with initials uses
> O(1) space, whereas quoting with ">" uses O(n) space, for n levels of
> nested quotes. They also prevent misattributions.
But (except for Fidonet?), initials *won't* be used consistently,
using more space and causing a big mess. Sometimes it can also be
difficult to see who responded to whom, especially when some bastard
top-posts.
Misattributions may happen, as different people may have the same
initials, especially on groups where one-word aliases (e.g. "Dave",
"David", "devilkin") are common.
If certain groups or hierarchies use alternate quoting consistently, it
could make sense to allow it for these groups *only* (i.e. a per-group
setting), but not as a *general* option.
--
"Failure is not an option. It's bundled with your software."
- [Pan-users] Feature Request: configurable quoting character, Toby A Inkster, 2003/02/15
- Re: [Pan-users] Feature Request: configurable quoting character, Charles Kerr, 2003/02/15
- Re: [Pan-users] Feature Request: configurable quoting character, Torstein Sunde, 2003/02/15
- Re: [Pan-users] Feature Request: configurable quoting character, Paul Hudson, 2003/02/15
- Re: [Pan-users] Feature Request: configurable quoting character, Wolf J. Flywheel, 2003/02/15
- [Pan-users] Re: Feature Request: configurable quoting character, Toby A Inkster, 2003/02/16
- Re: [Pan-users] Re: Feature Request: configurable quoting character, Eric Ortega, 2003/02/21
- Re: [Pan-users] Re: Feature Request: configurable quoting character, Charles Kerr, 2003/02/21
- Re: [Pan-users] Re: Feature Request: configurable quoting character, Bobby D. Bryant, 2003/02/21
- Re: [Pan-users] Re: Feature Request: configurable quoting character, Duncan, 2003/02/21
- Re: [Pan-users] Re: Feature Request: configurable quoting character, Torstein Sunde, 2003/02/21
- Re: [Pan-users] Re: Feature Request: configurable quoting character, Eric Ortega, 2003/02/21