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Re: [linuxiran] laptop


From: ocean
Subject: Re: [linuxiran] laptop
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:17:50 -0800 (PST)

I live in Mashad and I'm far away from travelling to
Dubai or Turkey to purchase one on my own, you may
guess why;-)















--- Aryan Ameri <address@hidden> wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 November 2003 07:39, ocean wrote:
> > I'm wondering if u could help me buy the most
> > compatible laptop with linux (RH,Suse,Mandrake)
> > preferably raw( I don't really feel like paying
> > hundreds of thousands of tomans for windoze!)
> >
> > Any suggestions most appreciated.
> 
> 
> Well, compatibility between laptops and Linux is
> well documented on the 
> web. try a google search, and you'll find lots of
> documents. 
> http://www.linux-laptop.net/ is a good place to
> start. Also take a look 
> at this tldp document here
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Laptop-HOWTO.html
> 
> My experience is that I have a IBM ThinkPad A31, and
> it's rock solid. 
> Everything works with Linux, except the included
> winmodem, which wasn't 
> a big problem for me cause I bought a PCMCIA modem
> for a mere $30. But 
> ThinkPad A series is a desktop repalcement, which
> means it's not very 
> thin. The R seriers is better for you if you are a
> frequent traveller. 
> All of it's hardware works with Linux, including the
> power panagement, 
> and the Modem. Generaly If you want to buy a laptop,
> I suggest going 
> the IBM route. They are a bit overpriced, but you
> get what you pay for. 
> Also IBM is generaly Linux-Firendly. If you ask
> their support, Linux 
> related questions, they generaly say:Linux is an
> unsopported OS, but 
> then they go on and will give you tons of
> information and will assist 
> you in any possible way. Besides, many IBMers use
> Linux themselves, so 
> they know what they talk about. It's much different
> from say, Sony. I 
> asked the same question (about Linux support) from a
> sony support guy, 
> and he was like "Uh... What is Linux?"
> 
> 
> The other choice of course, is going the Mac route.
> Mac laptops are very 
> popular among open source people these days. I was
> looking at some 
> shots from LinuxWord this year, and nearly everybody
> and their dog had 
> a Mac. More on that below.
> 
> About getting raw laptop, and not paying for
> Windows, you won't be that 
> succesful with major brands. There are some small
> sompanies which sell 
> Linux loaded laptops, but they are small unknown
> companies. All major 
> brands (Simens, Toshiba, IBM, Dell, etc) pre load
> their laptop with 
> Windows, so it means you pay for your windows
> license. You have the 
> option of sending back your software, and getting a
> refund for it, but 
> my experience, as well as that of Arash Zeini, shows
> that this never 
> works. If you really do not want to pay money to MS,
> then I suggest 
> buying a Mac.
> 
> The Mac, is a wonderful choice for a laptop. because
> of limited variety 
> of hardware, mostly linux works on all of the Mac
> laptops, with no 
> problem. If you have a budget of about $1000 to
> $1500, I strongly 
> suggest you consider the new iBook G4. It's such a
> wonderful laptop, 
> for such a low price, that my flat mate here has
> fallen in love with 
> it, and is going to buy one very soon. Usually
> people think of Mac as 
> expensive. I tell you, the new iBook G4, is real
> cheap, comparing to 
> the competition. 256 MB DDR RAM, a 14.1' crisp TFT
> screen, 5 hours 
> battery life, a G4 processor, and a decent ATI
> graphics card with 40 GB 
> of fast HDD, a CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive, all for a mere
> $1300. It's a 
> win-win IMHO. If you are in a Univ, you can buy it
> from your 
> University's Apple reperesetative, and apply for the
> educational 
> discount, which will bring the price down to
> something like one grand. 
> 
> And certainly, we all love the iPod, don't we? :-D
> 
> Besides, you actualy get to play with a new OS (if
> you decide to use Mac 
> OS X), a new architecture, and a whole new idea of
> computing. It's 
> certainly worth the money.
> 
> Of course, you didn't say where you are, so I
> assumed that you have the 
> option of buying your hardware from a country with
> real support from 
> these companies. If you are in Iran, and don't have
> the option of 
> buying from over seas, then that's a completely
> different situation.
> 
> Still, most Iranians have the option of travelling
> to Dubai or Turkey 
> from time to time, and buying from these places is
> much better than 
> going to Paytakht or Reza and buying from someone
> who doesn't know the 
> difference between a typewriter and a computer. 
> 
> just my 2 pence.
> -- 
> /*  "Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
> every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a
> theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those
>  who are cold and are not clothed."*/
>               --President Eisenhower
> 
> Aryan Ameri
> 
> 
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