Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

[Richard Shann]

On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 13:45 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 11:37, Richard Shann <richard@rshann.plus.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > Hello Richard -
> > > 
> > > On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > Hello -
> > > > > 
> > > > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > > > 
> > > > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual Annotations,
> > > > > Dynamics,
> > > > > Rehearsal
> > > > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-click gives
> > > > > me
> > > > > the
> > > > > context
> > > > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size), but
> > > > > there
> > > > > are no
> > > > > prompts when I left-click
> > > > 
> > > > left-click starts playback from the object left-clicked on.
> > > > Right-
> > > > click
> > > > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is the (Help
> > > > for
> > > > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu whereas if you
> > > > are
> > > > on an
> > > > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context sensitive menu
> > > > for
> > > > tweaking.
> > > 
> > > That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0 (Andreas
> > > Schneider's
> > > .deb
> > > packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0 from the
> > > Debian
> > > repository
> > > for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas Schneider's Bullseye
> > > .deb
> > > packages.
> > > 
> > > Right-clicking does give me the the menu you described, but that
> > > is
> > > the only
> > > menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do not get the
> > > context
> > > sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an object.
> > > 
> > > Also, playing straight away does not happen when left-clicking on
> > > a
> > > note.
> > > > 
> > > > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object (blue
> > > > square on
> > > > the
> > > > object) then left-clicking will give you the context sensitive
> > > > menu,
> > > > rather than just starting playing straight away, you can play
> > > > from
> > > > that
> > > > menu anyway.
> > > 
> > > The blue square does not appear, and the context sensitive menu
> > > is
> > > not
> > > available.
> > > > 
> > > > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > 
> > > > so, right not left click.
> > > > 
> > > > Richard
> > > 
> > > Everything works as expected in v. 2.4.0 on  Debian Stretch, it's
> > > only with
> > > .deb packages for Bullseye that I have this problem.
> > > 
> > > Any other suggestions or recommendations?
> > 
> > The symptoms you are describing indicate that working back from the
> > note in the pdf to the Denemo Display is not working.
> > 
> > 1) What is the output on the terminal when you try to click on a
> > note
> > in the Print View?
> > 2) When you hover over a title does a link (starting Scheme: ...)
> > appear?
> > 3) When you hover over a note does a link (starting textedit://
> > ...)
> > appear? (see attached)
> > 
> > what version of LilyPond are you using? (In the Scheme window
> > execute
> > 
> > (d-InfoDialog (d-GetLilyVersion))
> > 
> > to get that.
> > 
> > If the link appears in (3) above, open the file in /tmp that is
> > specified in the link and look at the line and column number
> > indicated
> > to see if it is the right place (send the file and link text if you
> > don't read LilyPond syntax at all).
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > Richard
> > BTW please use "Group Reply" or "Reply to All" so that those
> > searching
> > the mailing list archives can follow the thread.
> 
> Hello, I think I have the same problem in Denemo 2.5.3 installed from
> source using Lilypond 2.22. I'm using it on Lubuntu 20.04 running in
> VirtualBox on a Mac.
> If it helps, here's my results.
> 1) No output, but after adding any note in Denemo, the terminal shows
> 'Denemo - WARNING : Lilypond did not end successfully: Child process
> exited with code 1
> Running lilypondLog level set to 287'. The Print View updates
> correctly.
> 2. Yes, the link appears.
> 3. Yes, I got a link.
> 4. In the Denemo print view

??? did you mean in the View->LilyPond view?

>  my first note is at position 10, while
> when I open the Lilypond file the first note is at position 0, i.e.
> 21:9:10 in Denemo vs. 21:9:0 in the Lilypond file.
Thanks for this - could you post the lilypond file? (A file  created
with

(d-New)
(d-C)

would be ideal).

If I copy and paste the relevant bit of the LilyPond view I get this:

MvmntIVoiceI = {
         c'4 \AutoEndMovementBarline
}

where you see 9 spaces appear before the note name c'4
One of these is actually a special character - an anchor - that appears
in the LilyPond view as a gray square, the other 8 are inserted by
Denemo at the start of each measure. This code is unconditional, so
there should be no way(*) that the first note name in a bar could
appear in column 0. (TAB characters are avoided in the output because
they get interpreted differently by different libraries, the result is
the rather untidy LilyPond syntax that you see in the LilyPond view :(
).
 I attach a screenshot of the same bit of the LilyPond output.

Richard

(*) well, as with most things, there is a way. You *could* attach a
Denemo Directive inserting a line feed into the LilyPond syntax before
the note ...

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