Re: GNUstep Base OpenStep Compliance

[Helge Hess]

Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote:
> > Chasing an actively developed, and changing API, and expecting to base 
> > a stable system on it is, in my opinion, folly.
> But *NOBODY* proposes that.

Partly because Cocoa isn't really a changing API ;-) If that would be 
the case, Apple would have a huge problems having to support thousands 
of developers and multimillions of lines of code.

> It explains your frustration.  I'm frustrated by lack of stability of 
> the gui too.  However MacOS-X has nothing to do with that ... lack of 
> developers does!
>
> The gui is still relatively unstable because we don't have lots of 
> people fixing bugs. 

See my "huge mail".

a) there are too little developers for fixing bugs
b) there are too little QA people !
c) there are almost no applications

b) and c) are related. Nobody seems to look at the issue that a 
"product" not only needs development but intensive testing. I don't mean 
people writing testsuites or developers using ProjectCenter, but eg 
users which actually use GNUmail. It takes a huge amount of time on the 
users *and* on the developers side to properly file and fix bugs.

I'm pretty sure that most GNOME bugs were found when Gnumeric or 
Evolution were implemented. The same for KDE and KOffice.

And all this will take at least the same amount of time to find/fix like 
it took to develop the initial "complete" code which is why I think 
gnustep-gui will never result in a usable environment. (argh)

Greetings
  Helge