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Re: Bootstrapping
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Luke A. Kanies |
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Re: Bootstrapping |
Date: |
Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:17:56 -0600 (CST) |
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Nate Campi wrote:
> Well I know what I plan to do once I'm done writing a book (unrelated to
> cfengine) - come up with some cfengine best practices and system
> administration best practices all wrapped around debian linux.
If things go well, I may try to write a cfengine book this year. If you
want one, email O'Reilly. :)
> I want to bootstrap an entire small network, DNS, DHCP,
> routing/gateway/firewalling, web site under CVS control with staging
> site, mail server (postfix/courier or postfix/cyrus), fileserver (NFS
> and samba I guess, maybe AFS if I get around to learning it), directory
> services (LDAP for accounts, probably kerberos for auth and win2k domain
> trusts), automated installation as well.
I've been half-heartedly working on this for a while, and this is one of
the main goals of my consultancy. I'm trying to get to the point where I
can walk into a company with a CD or an appliance and quickly bootstrap
an automated infrastructure. A single processor system can do most of
this stuff for most companies, and for those who need more power, it's
pretty easy to bootstrap bigger boxes off the smaller one.
> There's no reason setting up new a network needs to include reinventing
> everything. More small networks could be standardized, and benefit from
> the collective wisdom of the cfengine community (at least the ones
> contributing to this effort) for all the small things that make a system
> run better (like automatically syncing /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf
> to a postfix chroot, which is easy to forget when you move a host to a
> new subnet).
>
> A surprising amount of configuration could be shared across sites,
> enabling networks to get up quickly, and run better. Consultants could
> come into networks they've never been on before, but quickly solve
> problems and roll out new services, since he/she already understands the
> cfengine setup.
>
> This is what I'd want the community-contributed cfengine configs to come
> from - actual use, practices proven on real networks. It would need to
> be it's own project, with active contributers. I plan on starting it on
> my own, then seeing if people want to join in once I have something
> working to get at least a small network up from scratch. It would
> probably need to be a custom debian distro on a CD, to bootstrap the
> whole process from a gold server.
I think it's on topic. I'd be glad to work with you on it, as that's what
I'll be doing this year anyway (along with a couple other time-consuming
initiatives, like doing enough consulting to continue eating until I get
the bootstrapper done).
Luke
--
"I think that's how Chicago got started. A bunch of people in New York
said, 'Gee, I'm enjoying the crime and the poverty, but it just isn't
cold enough. Let's go west.' "
--Richard Jeni
- Re: mln (was: Re: Bootstrapping), (continued)
- Re: mln (was: Re: Bootstrapping), John Sechrest, 2004/02/18
- Re: mln (was: Re: Bootstrapping), Tim Nelson, 2004/02/18
- Re: mln (was: Re: Bootstrapping), John Sechrest, 2004/02/18
- Re: mln (was: Re: Bootstrapping), Tim Nelson, 2004/02/18
- Re: mln (was: Re: Bootstrapping), John Sechrest, 2004/02/18
- Re: Bootstrapping, Luke A. Kanies, 2004/02/19
- Re: Bootstrapping, Mark . Burgess, 2004/02/19
- Re: Bootstrapping, John Sechrest, 2004/02/19
- Re: Bootstrapping, Luke A. Kanies, 2004/02/19
- Re: Bootstrapping, John Sechrest, 2004/02/19
- Re: Bootstrapping,
Luke A. Kanies <=
- Re: Bootstrapping, Tim Nelson, 2004/02/18
Re: Bootstrapping, Mark . Burgess, 2004/02/18
Re: Bootstrapping, Luke A. Kanies, 2004/02/18
Re: Bootstrapping, John Sechrest, 2004/02/18
Re: Bootstrapping, Chip Seraphine, 2004/02/19
Re: Bootstrapping, Luke A. Kanies, 2004/02/19