Re: [Laptopkernel-devel] Introduction and general thoughts

[Stephan Skrodzki]

Am Mit, 2003-05-28 um 23.17 schrieb Hanno Böck:

> Our goal is to provide patches useful for all laptops. E.g. the
> acpi-patch is needed for nearly every current laptop. Swsusp and
> supermonut are also useful for all laptop-users.

Ok, understood. Anyhow, I guess, you will get very soon in the trouble
you have also stated:

> As you see, we don't focus just on tm800-stuff, instead we want to have
> a kernel with lots of laptop-specific patches (as long as they don't
> interferre).

so, how (just for example) could cpufreq get along with the performance
settings of the acpi environment? And even if those two patches would
cooperate, the next question which would come up would, which /proc
interface (acpi or cpufreq) would work how on which laptop.

-> More than providing a monolithic kernel patch, I would suggest to
make it more chooseable, which patch to load - or even the handcrafts
way - to work more on the "Which patch is good for what" Howto.

> If you need a mailinglist for tm800-issues, we can create one in our
> savannah-project.

I think it is worth thinking about that. Bernd, what do you mean?

>> b) For trancsparency and individuality please do not provide a mega
>> patch but - if possible - a collection of single patches and a shell
>> script, which would apply them... e.g. provide a tar.gz with all
>> patches in on dir named 01_acpi.diff up to ..99_usb_storage.diff or
>> something like that (the beginning numbers are for applying patches 
>> in
>> the right order...) and provide a simple shell script like:

> I already thought about that. It is possible, but it would be much > >
> more
> work.

Please do that. I can't imagine, that I would be the only one with such
a wish.

> To help out, I provided all the sources where the patches came from in
> the announcement.

Yes, but Bernd once announced on his website, that he had to modify the
swsup patch. Bernd is that true?

>> ACPI: the battery does not give you a discharge rate, so most of the
>> tools show no or senseless rest times. Do you have the same results?

> I don't know if any laptop does that. Mine also doesn't.

With apm, this worked. I can't imagine, that ACPI would hide this info,
but, when this ist true, we should expand the acpi patch to provide
battery drain infos.

> > Hotkeys: I have tried all the patches and modules for other acer
> > models on the web. No one worked...
> I think bernd has them working.

Looking forward to Bernds statement.

Regards
 Stephan