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Re: Support RMS
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Danny Spitzberg |
Subject: |
Re: Support RMS |
Date: |
Thu, 15 Apr 2021 21:43:50 -0700 |
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 9:39 PM Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
* Alexandre Oliva <[1]lxoliva@fsfla.org> [2021-04-16 01:40]:
> People who believe them are likely to be turned away not just from
the
> FSF, but from any public appearance by RMS as leader or regular
> participant in the movement he founded.
>
> If we accept the premise that RMS's misbehavior drives people
away, then
> attributing far worse misbehavior to him drives more people away
from
> the movement.
Exactly that is what I argue for, I just did not express it well
enough.
> Conversely, people who do NOT believe the false accusations
perceive
> intolerance and a toxic atmosphere being supported by a
significant
> fraction of the movement.
>
> If we accept the premise that misbehavior attributed to RMS drives
> people away, then it's hard to dispute that the displays of
intolerance
> and toxic atmosphere will also drive people away, probably in a
larger
> magnitude.
Yes. However, I have impression that it is just few people who
initiate and drive others to kind of "join" but those others don't
have first person experiences.
It seem to me that group of these people abusively, not rationally,
pick on RMS for reason of being human. There is no possible way that
RMS will agree with everybody, especially RMS, but I have been
watching Libreplanet videos, I did not see none of them spoiled for
some unreasonable behavior.
Unfortunately, but unsurprisingly, the recording of the talk cuts off
before RMS started yelling angrily.
I rather find behavior of initiators of defaming and character
assassinations rather psychotic more sociopath in this sense,
lacking
empathy to such a high degree.
I do feel bad for RMS. He seems entirely beyond remorse, even in his
recent statement -- essentially, "I'm sorry people are upset" not "I'm
sorry that I don't understand people's feedback."
What you explain in this email is exactly reasonable empathy, you
analyse the effect on both sides, you can feel for this and the
other
side. That is opposite and in contrast to those very few who
initiated
character assassination.
--
Jean
Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
[2]https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman
[3]https://stallmansupport.org/
[4]https://rms-support-letter.github.io/
References
1. mailto:lxoliva@fsfla.org
2. https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
3. https://stallmansupport.org/
4. https://rms-support-letter.github.io/
- Re: Support RMS, (continued)
- Re: Support RMS, Thomas Lord, 2021/04/15
- Re: Support RMS, Aaron Wolf, 2021/04/15
- Re: Support RMS, Jean Louis, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS, Aaron Wolf, 2021/04/15
- Re: Support RMS, Jean Louis, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS, Alexandre Oliva, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS, Jean Louis, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS,
Danny Spitzberg <=
- Re: Support RMS, Jean Louis, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS, Danny Spitzberg, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS, Jean Louis, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS, Thomas Lord, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS, Thomas Lord, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS, Aaron Wolf, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS, Thomas Lord, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS, Adrienne G. Thompson, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS - find new communities, Danny Spitzberg, 2021/04/16
- Re: Support RMS - find new communities, Adrienne G. Thompson, 2021/04/16