Re: [linuxiran] : Translating GPL [was:redhat manuals translation]

[Arash Zeini]

On Monday 23 June 2003 21:27, Aryan Ameri wrote:

> On Sunday 22 June 2003 23:09, Arash Zeini wrote:
> > On Sunday 22 June 2003 23:39, Aryan Ameri wrote:
> > > On Sunday 22 June 2003 14:25, Zoup wrote:
> > > > > Also remember that translating GPL is not programmer's job. It
> > > > > is a license, it has legal consequenses. Who ever translates it
> > > > > should be very familiar with both, software programming, and
> > > > > law. Translating it is the job of a programmer and a lawyer.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you ever get serious about translating GNU GPL, then make
> > > > > sure to sit beside one (or two) lawyers(s). Iranian free
> > > > > software projects might need to include a copy of your
> > > > > translation of GPL with their software, and that means that it
> > > > > should be legaly 'right'.
> > > > >
> > > > > A year ago, it also came to my mind to translate GPL, but then
> > > > > I realized that I should pay a lawyer, and I didn't like the
> > > > > idea !!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > but there is *no* law about computer's here ! :)
> > > > what can we say about free software so ? :)
> > > > i guess its just good for people to read and know it :)
> > >
> > > GPL is not a computer law. It is a Copyright law. And Iran does
> > > have a Copyright Law ( Hefazate az hoghooghe manavi nasherin va
> > > nevisandegan). Although Iran has not signed the international
> > > copyright law (i.e you can copy windows), but it does have a
> > > domestic copyright law (i.e you can not republish a farsi book, you
> > > will be jailed).
> > >
> > > Currently software which is published in Iran (like Zar Negar) is
> > > protected by the Iranian Copyright law. That is the reason that if
> > > you go to Paytakht, or Reza, Persian softwares are so expensive.
> > > Because they are covered by Copyright, and copying them is illegal,
> > > according to Iranian law.
> > >
> > > So if we want Iranian free software projects to also be covered by
> > > GPL, then we should translate GPL, in a legal way. Then according
> > > to Iranian Copyright law, it will be enforceable.
> >
> > It will be enforceable, but AFAIR a translaated GPL is not GPL
> > itself! I.e. in order to have GPL applied to your software you can
> > only use the English version, this would be at least the view of FSF.
> > And we verfied once that you can generally enforce these kind of
> > license in Iran as well.
>
> OK, I don't get this part. I am a bit confused on this whole thing.
>
> I know that translating GPL would turn it into something other than GPL,
> and I know the reasons that the FSF doesn't accept GPL translations.
> but, on the other hand:
>
> Let's say I am company in Iran, and I have developed a software and want
> to release it under GPL, in Iran, and want it to be enforceable. If I
> just say that this programm is licensed under GPL, and then attach a
> copy of "English GPL" with my program, then would that be sufficent for
> Iranian law?

AFAIK this should be enough. But I am not 100% sure. But this was my 
understanding that it is OK if you use the English GPL.

Does anybody know this for sure?

Arash

> Let's assume that over a case I (the company) go to court. In the court,
> can I reffer to the English GPL? Does the court recognize an english
> copyright license?
>
> If no (which I assume is the case) then I have to translate GPL. And if
> I do so, then it won't be GPL anymore.
>
> I'm a bit confused about this.
>
> Cheers

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